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BartDelft schreef op 17 september 2014 14:01:

Dasr sluit ik me bij aan. Het forum was geweldig, tot een aantal maanden terug. Bart
Toen de koers hard steeg was iedereen blij en nu de koers in elkaar gestort is, wordt de boodschapper als zondebok aangemerkt en stort ook het forum in elkaar.

Dit is zo'n beetje de 'standaardprocedure' bij sterk gehypte aandelen.

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Iedereen weet wel beter. Nu hoeven alleen jij en de moderator het nog snappen. Ik ben benieuwd naar het artikel.

Bart
DeZwarteRidder
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BartDelft schreef op 17 september 2014 14:47:

Iedereen weet wel beter. Nu hoeven alleen jij en de moderator het nog snappen. Ik ben benieuwd naar het artikel. Bart
Ik ook...!!!

DeZwarteRidder
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BartDelft schreef op 17 september 2014 14:01:

Dasr sluit ik me bij aan. Het forum was geweldig, tot een aantal maanden terug. Bart
Als de koers na de webcast weer stijgt naar 20, dan word ik uitgelachen en is alles weer koek en ei op het forum, wedden...???
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Nee hoor, jij hebt nu gelijk gehad. Dat heb ik al toegegeven op het andere draadje. Als ze nu zouden stijgen zou dat een andere reden hebben dan saffier op de iphone 6.

Anderen zwart maken, uitlachen of mijn gelijk halen is niet mijn manier van doen. In tegenstelling tot de jouwe.

Bart
DeZwarteRidder
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BartDelft schreef op 17 september 2014 16:25:

Nee hoor, jij hebt nu gelijk gehad. Dat heb ik al toegegeven op het andere draadje. Als ze nu zouden stijgen zou dat een andere reden hebben dan saffier op de iphone 6.

Anderen zwart maken, uitlachen of mijn gelijk halen is niet mijn manier van doen. In tegenstelling tot de jouwe. Bart
Ik denk dat ik de berichten die mij beledigen of anderszins tegen de regels zijn, maar eens ga bewaren.
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Verzamelen wij die van jou. Top.

Dit gaat echt nergens meer over... de hele tijd maar je gelijk willen halen..

Bart
DeZwarteRidder
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Dit bericht (wat zeer geloofwaardig klinkt) bevestigt volledig wat ik al vele malen heb verteld/voorspeld; nl zeer grote productieproblemen.

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wisewhiskers • 22 hours ago

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found a gem of a post from a worker in the plant

Reading the cnet article about why Iphone6 did not include sapphire covers. Most interesting find was in the post comment from an actual worker at the GTAT factory:

I work at GT Advanced Technologies in Mesa AZ.. I will not post my name but if I figure our how to post pics on this site I will... the original plan was to make the Crystal Saphire screens... the only problem was that the growth technicians were poorly trained and hired in masses.. they were contaminating the crystal with sweat and dust and other particles making the whole boule useless... we had about 600 unusable boules at one point... (28 day process to make one boule)... one time the water shut off and the whole plant's boules were destroyed again.. our plant is big enough to supply more than enough saphire but until we find out how to make it properly, we will be stuck to the iWatch. A couple weeks ago a fab supervisor also sent some of our only good boules to be recycled on accident and was fired... anyway we made some screens and they are incredible... we just have to perfect the process before going widespread...

First real insight whats going on in the factory of a thousand workers. Less
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dirtysocko • 4 hours ago

yeah, sounds like a real "sweat shop"
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jeffreyjk8 • 14 hours ago
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The post went beyond that, says how many pitfalls they have faced on production run, well the one sweat thing is exaggerated, yet he makes the point, they are messing up all over the place. When they find their go to team who gets it right, it might be something, and Wall Street sure seems to be pounding the stock, something makes me think this one might happen, downside 10, good support their, great risk reward, I am in, but not all in, at 10, I double down, but comfortable here for nice take. Less
DeZwarteRidder
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GT Advanced Technologies: Is A 40% Fall Reason To Buy?
Sep. 17, 2014 2:46 AM ET | 35 comments | About: GT Advanced Technologies, Inc. (GTAT)

Disclosure: The author has no positions in any stocks mentioned, and no plans to initiate any positions within the next 72 hours. (More...)

Summary

The Apple disappointment fall hit 40% on Tuesday.
Analyst estimates have been slashed.
Week of September 29th will be key.

The last couple of weeks have not been pretty for shareholders in GT Advanced Technologies (NASDAQ:GTAT). The company for which many investors were buying on the speculation that Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) would use sapphire in the iPhone 6 screen, has seen its shares plummet recently. While Apple did decide to use sapphire in the new Apple Watch, it appears that the iPhone 6 will not have a sapphire screen. As a result, analyst estimates have dropped, and the stock has as well. On Tuesday, that fall hit 40% from the recent high. Today, I'll update where things stand now and discuss what investors should focus on next.

The reduction in estimates:

I mentioned in my latest article that the Apple product launch did not go well for GT investors. The decision for Apple to not use sapphire for the iPhone 6 screen hurts on two levels:

The iPhone 6 screen is obviously much larger than the screen in the Apple Watch.
On a yearly basis, the iPhone 6 would most likely sell between 100-200 million units, while the Apple watch may only sell a quarter of that amount.

As a result, it appears that GT will not be supplying Apple with as much sapphire. Thus, analyst estimates have come crashing down recently. In the table below, you can see how those estimates have come down in just the past week or so.

These are tremendous declines in estimates, especially considering the fact that roughly 85-90% of 2014 revenues are expected in the back half of the year. There still may be some large revisions to analyst estimates, as the current range for 2014 revenues goes from $280 million to $650 million. Remember, the company's latest guidance called for $600 million to $700 million in revenues this year. When I first covered this name, analysts thought we would see about $625 million in 2014. Obviously, with revenue estimates falling, analysts have dramatically reduced their non-GAAP EPS estimates as well.

What to look for next:

The next big thing for investors will come in about two weeks. The company has recently announced that it will hold a webcasted conference call during the week of September 29th. This call will provide a business update after the close of the current quarter. Further details on the actual date and time will be forthcoming.

It appears that GT will make some sort of pre-announcement on the quarter as well as perhaps update its yearly guidance. From the reaction in the stock, as well as the drop in analyst estimates, most seem to think that the company will take down its yearly forecast. If this is the case, it becomes a matter of whether or not analysts have reduced their forecasts enough. I will certainly update investors once we get this update from the company.
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Ah een nieuwe topic. Wat zou dat heeerlijk zijn
Blaaskaak ridder...wat moet je ermee.

Ik ga maar eens wat gtat kopen.
DeZwarteRidder
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erik29 schreef op 17 september 2014 21:40:

Ah een nieuwe topic. Wat zou dat heeerlijk zijn
Blaaskaak ridder...wat moet je ermee.

Ik ga maar eens wat gtat kopen.
Zou je niet wachten tot na de webcast??
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Ik weet al wat Hyperion en Merlin is en hoor graag hun verdere plannen.
Maar ja ook dat zie ik dan weer. Misschien nog wat zakken zodat ik nog wat meer kan inslaan. allemaal niet zo boeiend zolang de lange termijn maar kansvol blijft. Ondertussen zal het flink blijven bewegen en zul jij blijven knippen en plakken en gewoon irritant blijven. That s life.

Dankje Bart
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solarfinancethinker • 1 hour 37 minutes ago

Why Is Business Situation Being Clarified on 12 Days and Not Now?

I really am stumped by the announcement of a couple days ago for quarter end. Does anyone know if there is an SEC reason for this or maybe even Apple agreement reason. I can't imagine either is the case. Is GTAT also trying to figure out what its situation is?

Will be interested to see if new job postings stop. None since September 9.

I'm torn between adding more or waiting to see if the worse is over.
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wisewhiskers • 34 minutes ago

You know why? Because GTAT management themselves don't have clarity and are hoping by end of 3rd quarter they get a clearer picture. How can you report right now when you are in the middle of a crisis. It's like asking a fireman to report to you while he's in the middle of fighting a fire and still doesn't know whether he's got it under control or not. Everything, and I mean everything hinges on Mr. Cook of Apple and what he decides he want's to do about this sapphire strategy. Will he drop the order for good? Delay and push back till next year? Or best case scenario keep accepting delivery. Will he promise to make his final prepayment in Oct, or hold off? Will he accept more deliveries of watch covers by end of this year?

What would you do if your were Mr. Cook?
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kroghmorten2 • 28 minutes ago

I am not sure how cynical Cook is. But he could just let GTAT go bankrupt and buy the relevant parts on the cheap.
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Mark Hibben

GT Advanced Technologies: How The Bulls Got It So Wrong
Sep. 17, 2014 3:47 PM ET | 8 comments | About: GT Advanced Technologies, Inc. (GTAT), Includes: AAPL

Analysts and tech writers inflated the importance of the Apple/GTAT agreement by shifting focus to iPhone, a more important product than Apple Watch.
In order to support the iPhone sapphire screen theory, projections of sapphire production capacity were grossly overstated.
The letdown following the iPhone 6 event shouldn't blind investors to the future potential for sapphire in iPhone, but should make them more cautious.

While the September 9 event was a triumph for Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) and the stewardship of Tim Cook, it marked a setback for GT Advanced Technologies (NASDAQ:GTAT). Since September 8, GTAT has fallen about 30%, merely as a consequence of Apple not using sapphire in iPhone 6. How the expectations of investors and Apple fans everywhere become so disconnected from reality is a question that I feel deserves more consideration than I've given it up until now.
The Big Promise

When the GTAT/Apple deal was announced last year, I immediately thought of what was then called iWatch. Sapphire had long been used for watch crystals, and I took this as a sign that iWatch was on its way. But almost immediately, focus in the media shifted to the iPhone. iWatch was still an unknown quantity with an unknown market potential, whereas iPhone was Apple's flagship product producing roughly half of Apple's revenue. Sapphire on iPhone was big, sapphire on iWatch, not so much.

And Apple seemed to have big plans for sapphire, buying a 1.3 million square foot building in Mesa, AZ, and hiring GTAT to equip and run the facility. By February, 9to5 Mac ran an article stating that Apple had procured enough sapphire production capacity to build 100-200 million iPhone screens per year. This seemed to settle the matter. The next iPhone would have sapphire screens.

The article quoted Matt Margolis, who also has contributed a number of bullish analyses of GTAT to Seeking Alpha. There have been many bullish articles on GTAT since the beginning of the year, but Margolis is noteworthy in the thoroughness of his research. Margolis also demonstrates how even well-done analysis can get things terribly wrong.

A good example of this is his April 27, 2014, article in which he reaches three remarkable conclusions:

1) The Mesa, AZ, facility likely had over 2,000 sapphire growth furnaces, with plans for another 700-1,000 to be installed.

2) GTAT had the ability to produce 500 furnaces per month.

3) The Mesa, AZ, facility reached full production by the end of March.

With 20/20 hindsight, it's obvious that none of these assertions were correct. Since Apple has no near-term plans to offer sapphire screen iPhones, the ~2,700 furnaces would be mostly excess capacity, since only about 100 furnaces are needed to support Apple Watch production, even assuming my lofty expectations of 10 million Watch sales per quarter. Since Apple didn't need 2,700 furnaces, it didn't need to have them installed at the rate of 500 per month. And finally, if the Mesa facility had been able to reach full production by the end of March, we would probably be seeing Apple Watch on store shelves in time for the holidays.

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Je slaat door.... nog even en je bent meer Henk Plagiaat!

Je zet er nog wel bij waar het vanaf komt maar komt er volgens mij wel op klaar
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DeZwarteRidder schreef op 17 september 2014 22:43:

Margolis wordt afgeserveerd:

seekingalpha.com/article/2502425-gt-a...
Ja dat hebben Buffet en Jobs ook mee gemaakt in hun leven....so what??
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chicadow • 31 minutes ago
Sapphire windshield on new Tesla

Confirmed. By, uh, a guy I know. Fred Musk.
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johnnie_beans • 6 minutes ago

Google the below article and you will see why they need sapphire windshields. It will be a sapphire laminate over Lexan. Lexan scratches easily.

Google: A Chinese Man Smashed His Brand New Model S To Protest 'Tesla's Arrogance'
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