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zolotnik schreef:

Ik ga pitten.
Howdy zolotnik***, Welterusten Dear Ciga.

Droom maar over "in gold they TRUT"

Houdoe,

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p.s. ***Ben je 'n illegale Pool? :-)

p.s.s. dear Ciga, Gold down $1.50 nu, maar zal morgen wel stijgen.

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So the IMF is threatening to sell some gold again? Hmmm, I seem to remember hearing threats like that before. What a reliable indicator of gold strength it is to have the IMF floating the gold sale balloon yet again.

I think its odd that news comes out without yet having US congressional approval which must occur before any sale takes place. I also think its odd that no specific amount of gold to be sold was reported, yet they did mention the entire bullion holdings of IMF. Is the IMF going to sell every ounce of gold? I dont think so, and in previous discussions on that topic, they always suggested they would sell a chunk of it to raise cash. So why are they releasing this statement now, with so little disclosure on what they plan to do?

Is there another hedge fund that is breaking down, similar to LTCM a few years ago, and the situation is so critical that the only remedy is to break off some of the last big gold holdings to fill the void? Is this yet another obvious ploy to 'talk' gold lower at a time when it has the potential to breakout past the $1000 per ounce barrier? We do not have to look back very far, when the UK sold off their gold reserves and did so in a way that almost guaranteed that they would recoup the lowest value for the gold, and in doing so succeeded in driving the spot gold price down.

I think the crisis affecting South African gold production may be very serious indeed, if the IMF card is to be played for once and for all. The Cartel is running out of aces to play.

Think about this quote: "The IMF is rich, if it wants to be." Just when the hell was the mandate of the IMF to become rich? The IMF appears to be yet another political slush fund to be employed as a blunt weapon whenever the status quo is threatened. Let them sell their gold and reap the whirlwind after realising a short term gain for their agenda. It worked out so well for the UK... not.
cheers!
Mexico Mike
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Hou het koper in de gaten net als lood een spectaculaire come back.....en het zilver schurkt tegen de $ 18 aan en goud & platinum op all time highs... PM & BM zijn nog steeds de top belegging van de 21 e eeuw...

Associated Press Gold Hits Record on Oil Rally
By STEVENSON JACOBS 02.20.08, 5:21 PM ET

NEW YORK - Gold surged to a record in aftermarket trading Wednesday after oil rallied above $100 a barrel and investors bet the Federal Reserve will again slash interest rates - boosting the metal's appeal as a hedge against inflation.

Other precious metals traded mixed, with silver also touching a record-high and platinum retreating from historic levels.

Gold has risen more than 12 percent this year, driven mainly by oil's ascent to $100 and steep declines in the U.S. dollar. Gold for April delivery jumped as high as $949.20 an ounce in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange - the highest ever and within striking distance of the psychologically important $1,000 barrier. Earlier Wednesday, gold settled $8 higher at $937.80.

"I would point to oil as the primary driver. Oil and gold seem to be in lockstep right now," said Jon Nadler, senior analyst of Kitco Bullion Dealers Montreal.

Silver joined gold's rally, shooting 33.2 cents higher late Wednesday to reach $17.84 an ounce for March delivery on the Nymex, after earlier touching a record $17.87. Silver ended the day 25.20 cents higher to settle at $17.760.

Platinum for April delivery retreated from record territory on profit-taking, losing $14.30 to settle at $2,138.80 an ounce on the Nymex, after earlier falling as low as $2,062 an ounce. March copper fell 1.50 cents to $3.7085 a pound.

Gold's rise also comes as market expectations for further interest rate cuts have solidified. Fallout from the housing slump and credit crunch prompted the Federal Reserve on Wednesday to lower its projection for economic growth this year - raising expectations that the central bank will further decrease its benchmark rate to jolt the economy.

Lower interest rates can help the economy but tend to depress the dollar, encouraging investors to shift funds into hard assets like gold or oil as a safeguard against inflation.

The contract for March delivery of light sweet crude, which was expiring later Wednesday, rose 73 cents to settle at a record $100.74 on the New York Mercantile Exchange after earlier rising as high as $101.32, a new trading record.

Other energy futures fell. March gasoline slipped 1.79 cents to settle at $2.5852 a gallon on the Nymex, while March heating oil fell 0.68 cent to settle at $2.7546 a gallon.

In agriculture markets, wheat prices plummeted Wednesday as traders cashed in profits following three days of gains.

Wheat's decline came amid speculation that several developing countries, seizing on the grain's record-setting rally in recent days, have begun selling previously purchased wheat back to the U.S. in a bid to lock in gains, analysts said.

"The profit-taking is coming in from the spec community based on that rumor," said Jason Ward, grains analyst with Northstar Commodity in Minneapolis. "You could see the market fall back some more, but unless you get a new crop to come in and meet demand, the prices are going to go back up."

Wheat for May delivery shed 14 cents to settle at $10.325 a bushel on the Chicago Board of Trade, after earlier falling as low as $10.22 a bushel. Wheat hit an all-time high of $11.6975 a bushel earlier this month.

Other agriculture futures traded mixed. Soybeans for March delivery fell 0.75 cent to settle at $14.17 a bushel on the CBOT, while March corn gained 3.5 cents to settle at $5.235 a bushel.

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Gold Rises to Record; Silver at 27-Year High on Dollar's Slump

By Claudia Carpenter

Feb. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Gold rose to records in London and New York and silver gained to a 27-year high as the dollar's all- time low spurred demand for precious metals as a hedge against inflation. Palladium rose to the highest since 2001.

Gold is up 15 percent this year as a U.S. housing slump and turmoil in credit markets led the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates when commodities were rising to records. The dollar declined on speculation Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke will signal more rate cuts in testimony to Congress today.

``With a weaker dollar, imports become more expensive and that can import inflation into a country,'' said Ben Davies, chief executive officer of Hinde Capital Ltd. in London who helps manage the Hinde Gold Fund. ``The Fed wants to inflate their way out of the problems of a huge deficit and a banking system that's at the point of imploding.''

Gold for immediate delivery climbed $10.30, or 1.1 percent, to $958.45 an ounce as of 11:24 a.m. in London after earlier rising to a record $964.99.

The futures in New York increased $11.10 to $960 an ounce and gained to record $967.70 earlier.

The UBS Bloomberg Constant Maturity Commodity Index of 26 raw materials climbed to an all-time high yesterday, and is up 16 percent this year, led by increases in wheat, soybean oil and sugar. Oil today rose above $102 a barrel for the first time.

The Federal Funds rate is 3 percent, and another drop to 2.5 percent on March 18 ``now looks virtually certain,'' John Kemp, an analyst at Sempra Metals Ltd. in London, wrote in an e-mail today.

`Won't Go Away'

``The major inflationary problem is located in the commodities sector with the lack of energy, transportation and other resources,'' Kemp said in a phone interview yesterday. ``That inflation problem won't go away until commodity demand falls.''

Gold erased two days of declines sparked by the U.S. saying it would back sales of as much as 12.9 million ounces of gold by the International Monetary Fund. Central banks in China or India may absorb the sales, U.S. newsletter editor and trader Dennis Gartman wrote in a report yesterday.

China is ``ripe for such a purchase as they are a nation diversifying their dollar holdings and seeking protection for their remaining holdings,'' Davies at Hinde Capital wrote in a note to his clients yesterday.

China owns 19.29 million ounces of gold, worth $18.5 billion, or about 1 percent of its total $1.53 trillion in reserves. A call to Bai Li, a spokesman for the People's Bank of China, wasn't answered.

Platinum rose $7 to $2,155.50 an ounce, the first gain in three days and palladium increased as much as $28.50, or 5.3 percent, to $563 an ounce, the highest since July 2001.

Silver rose 69 cents to $19.46 an ounce, the highest since October 1980.

To graph technical gauges for gold: Moving Averages Relative Strength Index Fibonacci Back Test Technical Gauges

To contact the reporter on this story: Claudia Carpenter in London at ccarpenter2@bloomberg.net or ccarpenter2@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: February 27, 2008 06:28 EST
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Gold, silver and the shares remain THE historic investment opportunity of a lifetime!

No one summarizes the inherent danger of credit expansion (now the full-time job of central banks and governments in the West) better than the late great Austrian School economist Ludwig von Mises

"Sooner or later, credit expansion, through the creation of additional fiduciary, must come toa standstill. Even if the banks wanted to, they could not carry on this policy indefinitely, not even if they were being forced to do so by the strongest pressure from outside. The continuing increase in the quantity of fiduciary media leads to continual price increases.

Inflation can continue only so long as the opinion persists that it will stop in the foreseeable future. However, once the conviction gains a foothold that the inflation will not come to a halt, then a panic breaks out. In evaluating money and commodities, the public takes anticipated price increases into account in advance. As a consequence, pricesupward out of all bounds. People turn away from using money which is comprised by the increase in fiduciary media. They ‘flee’ to foreign money, metal bars, ‘real values,’barter. In short, the currency breaks down."

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If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?
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Gold Beats Financial Assets as Investors Seek Haven (Update2)

By Millie Munshi and Pham-Duy Nguyen

March 3 (Bloomberg) -- Gold, silver, platinum and palladium may be the best-performing financial assets this year as inflation and slowing growth erode the value of the world's major currencies, bonds and stocks.

Precious metals have risen at least twice as fast as the euro and yen in 2008 and returned six to 20 times as much as U.S. Treasuries. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index and all other major gauges of equities are down. Gold for immediate delivery reached an all-time high of $984.95 an ounce today, while silver traded at $20.19, the most expensive since 1980.

Investors are using metals to preserve their buying power as the U.S. dollar falls to a record and inflation accelerates. Gold, platinum and palladium may gain at least 30 percent this year as Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke prioritizes cutting interest rates over controlling consumer prices, said Ron Goodis, a trader at Equidex Brokerage Group Inc. in Closter, New Jersey, who has been buying and selling gold since 1978.

``It is hard to see how the monetary environment is going to be anything but supportive of higher gold and commodity prices anytime this year,'' said Chip Hanlon, who holds gold as manager of $1.5 billion at Delta Global Advisors Inc. in Huntington Beach, California. ``If currencies don't carry a favorable interest over metals, then why not own gold or platinum?''

Most metals are traded in dollars, tying their prices to how much the currency buys in the world economy. Gold rose 36 percent since Sept. 18, when Bernanke made the first of five cuts to the target rate for overnight loans between banks in order to stave off a U.S. recession. It's up 15 percent since breaking the 1980 record in January, and may rise to $1,300 an ounce by yearend, Goodis said.

Platinum, Palladium

Platinum and palladium -- sister metals used to make jewelry, catalytic converters for cars, and dental crowns and bridges -- have advanced even more this year.

Platinum futures in New York gained 42 percent and touched a record $2,214.50 an ounce Feb. 22. It may advance to $3,000 by yearend, said Goodis, who correctly predicted its surge earlier this year. Palladium will probably reach $750 an ounce by June, a 29 percent gain from the current price, he said.

Silver will advance to $25 an ounce sometime this year, estimated David Davis, an analyst at Credit Suisse Standard Securities in Johannesburg.

Bernanke lowered rates faster than any Fed chairman since 1982, and inflation in 2007 jumped 4.1 percent, the most in 17 years. U.S. housing starts in December fell to the lowest level since 1991, and fallout from the collapse of the U.S. subprime mortgage market has triggered about $181 billion in writedowns and credit losses at the world's largest financial firms.

Record Low Dollar

Turmoil in the financial markets and slowing economic growth pose ``greater risks'' than inflation, Bernanke told the House Financial Services Committee in Washington on Feb. 27. The Fed ``will act in a timely manner as needed to support growth and to provide adequate insurance against downside risks,'' he said, signaling he was prepared to make a sixth reduction in rates.

The U.S. Dollar Index, which tracks the currency against six major counterparts, touched 73.445 today, the lowest since its start in 1973. Even gold traded in euros, yen and pounds reached records this year as consumer prices rose around the world, eroding the appeal of currencies as an asset.

The Bank of England cut borrowing costs twice since November. European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet resisted similar moves because inflation in the 15 nations that use the euro rose to a 14-year high of 3.2 percent in January.

`Under Your Bed'

``You can't find a currency that you trust as a store of value, so you create a new one,'' said Robert Fullem, vice president of U.S. corporate foreign-exchange sales at Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi in New York. ``Safety ends up being a piece of metal. You can stick it under your bed, and sometimes that's your best bet.''

The rally in metals may be fleeting should some of the biggest holders sell or the dollar rebound.

The U.S., the largest shareholder of the International Monetary Fund, said Feb. 25 it may allow the IMF to sell as many as 401 metric tons of gold to meet budget shortfalls. The Fed forecasts food and energy costs will stop climbing in the months ahead. Frankfurt-based Deutsche Bank AG, the world's biggest currency trader, expects the dollar to rise to $1.37 against the euro by yearend.

``Gold is not a currency -- you're never going to be able to use gold coins at the 7-Eleven,'' said Ralph Preston, an analyst at Heritage West Financial Inc. in San Diego.

Gold, which once backed the U.S. dollar and British pound, reached a 20-year low of $253.20 in July 1999 as U.K. Prime Minister Gordon Brown, then the chancellor of the exchequer, spearheaded an effort to sell the precious metal and invest in government bonds.

Northern Rock Run

That year Peter Ward, a mining analyst at Lehman Brothers Inc., predicted the metal would hover at about $280 over the following three to four years, as other central banks followed Brown's lead. By the end of 2003, it was at $417 because the dollar had been falling. Ward declined to comment last week, and New York-based Lehman estimates gold will average $880 in 2008.

Gold & Silver Investments Ltd., a Dublin-based precious metals broker, said demand for gold there jumped 20 percent from mid-September to mid-October as the subprime crisis spurred depositors at Northern Rock Plc to make the first run on a U.K. bank in more than a century.

At least 95 percent of the new buyers have kept their money in the bullion, Mark O'Byrne, Gold & Silver's executive director, said in an interview on Feb. 26.

``They were very, very nervous and wanted security,'' O'Byrne said. ``Some were putting their entire savings into gold. They were that nervous.''

To contact the reporters on this story: Pham-Duy Nguyen in Seattle at pnguyen@bloomberg.net ; Millie Munshi in New York at mmunshi@bloomberg.net

If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?
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Gold Rises to Record on Demand for a Haven; Platinum Also Gains

By Claudia Carpenter

March 13 (Bloomberg) -- Gold rose to a record in London and approached $1,000 an ounce on speculation credit-market turmoil will spur demand for the metal as a haven from declines in stocks and the dollar.

Silver, platinum and palladium also advanced as the dollar fell below 100 yen for the first time since 1995 and to a record low against the euro after a Carlyle Group fund moved closer to collapse. Gold climbed 19 percent this year as the dollar fell and world equity markets declined.

``The financial system's in trouble at the moment and people are going to the safety of gold,'' said Mario Innecco, a futures broker at MF Global Ltd. in London. ``You can't create gold so easily as you can create dollars or euros or pounds.''

Gold for immediate delivery rose $10.95, or 1.1 percent, to $993.88 an ounce as of 11:41 a.m. in London, exceeding the previous all-time high of $992.05 last week.

Gold is the ``anti-dollar,'' JPMorgan Cazenove Ltd. analysts including Fraser Jamieson wrote in a report this week, raising their gold price forecast to $910 an ounce this year from $720. Jamieson declined to comment when phoned in London today.

The MSCI World Index, a benchmark for stock markets in developed nations, dropped 0.6 percent today, bringing the decline this year to about 10 percent.

``We remain long of gold and short of equities,'' U.S. trader and economist Dennis Gartman wrote in his daily Gartman Letter today. A ``long'' is a bet on higher prices and ``short'' is a bet on a decline.

`So Clear'

``The trend is so clear that we are adding to our long gold/short equity trade this morning,'' Gartman wrote.

Once gold goes over $1,000, it will continue rising, said MF Global's Innecco.

``It's going to be like crude going over $100 a barrel,'' he said. Oil has climbed 10 percent since exceeding that level on Feb. 19.

Assets in the StreetTracks Gold Trust, the biggest exchange- traded fund backed by gold, were unchanged yesterday at 652.5 metric tons, compared with the record 654.9 tons on March 10.

Platinum climbed $26.50, or 1.3 percent, to $2,094.50 an ounce, rising for a fourth day. An increase in power supplies in South Africa, the world's biggest producer, will provide mines with 95 percent of their power needs while cities may now face power cuts, the government said last week.

`Dim The Lights'

``There is a tension between the private consumer and big industrial user,'' said Allan Kerr, chief executive officer of Wogen Plc, the London-based trading company of metals including platinum. ``Do they dim the lights in the restaurants so they can produce ferrochrome? That sort of tension is still there I think.''

Jubilee Platinum Plc will consider building its own power plant for its Tjate platinum project in South Africa, the London- based company said today.

Palladium gained $11.25, or 2.2 percent, to $515.25 an ounce and silver advanced 53 cents, or 2.6 percent, to $20.68 an ounce. The UBS Bloomberg Constant Maturity Commodity Index of 26 raw materials is up 20 percent this year.

To graph technical gauges for gold: Moving Averages Relative Strength Index Fibonacci Back Test Technical Gauges

To contact the reporter on this story: Claudia Carpenter in London at ccarpenter2@bloomberg.net or ccarpenter2@bloomberg.net

If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?
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Four-Digit Gold Sets a New World Order March 17,2008

Well nobody who’s been a believer in gold prior to 2002 is surprised that gold has finally poked through the $1,000 mark, with futures now fetching $1007 today. It's more than just a psychological barrier that has been breached. Gold measured in four digits is going to have wide-ranging effects on many aspects of the global economy.

What’s surprising is that it took so long. But given the artifice and subterfuge brought to bear on the appearance of value these days, it's probably equally surprising that it ever broke $300.

But that’s what is so profoundly clear about gold.

Gold is not a commodity at all. Gold is the doctor called upon to diagnose imbalances and artificial valuations among asset classes. By that I mean, the only way to truly assess the value of any given paper currency is in terms of how much gold it can obtain. Gold is the standard by which currencies are measured, Bretton Woods notwithstanding.

Gold shines the unflinching glow of truth upon the fiat paper to which it is compared.

Throughout recorded history, increased demand for gold expressed as a higher price has always been symptomatic of larger fundamental problems at the basic level of economy and politics. With that in mind, the price of gold now would seem to indicate something is horribly wrong with the world. I wonder what it could be?

The most superficial and visible effect that gold valued in thousands is going to have is that we will become even more immune to daily price fluctuations of $20 or more. When gold first started to run in 2002, the bigger price swings up to $10 had the phone lines and forums humming with the “How ‘bout that!” disbelief that was the default reaction.

Then as it piled on value, I remember how annoyed I would get when a day’s $12 gain would be cancelled by a sell-off. I think it was Brien Lundin I first saw warn of the rising tide missed by a fixation on the bobbing cork.

Now that gold’s value is expressed in four digits, imagine how inconsequential those price fluctuations will become. And there again, gold reveals itself as the Great Equalizer. It's not the inherent value of gold that is skyrocketing, it’s the absence of value in currencies being illuminated.

Today, hedge funds are defaulting, banks are near collapse, China is shooting its stolen citizens, Iraq is quicksand for the American soul, and $1,000 gold is here.

With all the chaos in the world, a step back to consider the implications of $1,000 plus gold both geo-politically and economically is in order.

The big mining companies are strategizing attacks on one another, Sure Vale [CVRD] (RIO) has officially bowed out of its intention to acquire Xstrata, but they’ll be back. BHP Billiton (BHP) will not swallow Rio Tinto (RTP) for now, nor will Chinalco (ACH).

But the effect that $1,000 gold is going to have on the top of the financial food chain can already be discerned by the machinations of sovereign and large private wealth in the background. Through unique and innovative debt structures, these groups increasingly seek to obtain a stake in large quality resource assets. Gold topped $1,000 easily, in the long term sense, because it's being taken out of circulation faster than it can be taken out of the ground.

Ten million ounce plus deposits are going to become increasingly rare in the decades ahead, which will spur panic-driven acquisition, which in turn will fuel demand, which will continue to pressure the price of gold upward, which will attract more speculators, who will in turn induce more panic.

And while other metals have mostly emulated gold’s ascendancy over the last 5 years, the disconnect between gold and metallic commodities will become greater as the situation progresses.

The question that should now be foremost in the minds of contrarians, is, “Will the infrastructure build-outs in China and India now consuming all these raw materials be derailed as the United States leads the other G7 economies deeper into recession?”

If that happens, there’s the point at which the disconnect will become an amputation, as base metals will plummet, while panic-driven buying of gold will continue.

And the emphasis now should be on the word “panic”. The main symptom of humanity going forward, and indicated by $1,000 gold, is panic.

We have reached a point in our evolution as a species where supply is starting to fall permanently short in key areas, such as energy, raw materials, and food. The real estate bubble illuminates the panic that ensues when there is a broad perception that we’re running out of land.

We can’t run out of land, because land is not something we consume. It is, however, something we transform by our economic activity, and that process means the supply of desirable land diminishes in step with the rate at which we convert the earth’s materials into products for consumption.

The macro view from 10,000 feet, backed by World Bank reports, suggests that we are never going to overcome the twin perils of hunger and poverty. As the gulf between poverty and affluence widens, so the panic that may soon engulf cities will manifest itself first in the poorest regions. Evidence of that panic is apparent in poor governments, who make desperate grabs at mineral assets being developed by foreign companies before they’ve even started production, as in Mongolia.

Another emerging reality of which $1,000 gold is a clear symptom is the increasing distrust citizens harbor towards the global financial system. When even the banks start abandoning each other in times of crisis, and when governments have to start emptying their coffers of counterfeit currency to stave off total collapse, it becomes evident that a global vote of no confidence is being expressed.

Gold enforces discipline in financial markets. By attracting increasing sums of investment from other asset classes, such as asset-backed securities and other credit-supported issues, it transmits the absence of trust and the decline of those markets to its membership, causing a reordering of that universe to reflect an improved allocation of risk to such entities.

Gold needs no “ratings agency” to clarify its value.

But most important to small investors and speculators in junior mining stocks, $1,000 gold means that lower grade deposits which have suffered an absence of exploration due to low grades from prior work are going to be the recipients of attention again. With gold at $1,000 per ounce and climbing, sub-1 gram per tonne gold deposits can still be viable, if they are close to infrastructure and not excessively deep to reach.

The juniors have suffered since August because, as one of the few asset classes representative of real value, it was one of the few places hedge funds, banks and other institutions could extract capital to cover their bad credit bets. As the smoke clears from the collapse, expect a new world, in which miners and mining companies are recognized as one of the last remaining bastions of real value, and are priced accordingly.

While Barrick Gold (ABX), Newmont (NEM), Goldcorp (GG), Anglogold Ashanti (AU), and other major produces continue to set records for earnings, juniors with emerging deposits are gong to start disappearing in greater quantity, and at earlier stages of exploration, as soon it appears an economic gold deposit is likely.

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PETER BRIMELOW
Indians buying up gold?
Commentary: Gold bugs think Fed, other central banks making it available
By Peter Brimelow, MarketWatch
Last update: 12:08 a.m. EDT March 31, 2008
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- The gold bugs are coming out of their holes again.
When I last wrote on gold, the metal was challenging $1,000, a level which was passed that day. See March 17 column
After that, gold's stumbled, down $70 at one point, although up $10.60 over this past week.
But two crucial factors have swung encouragingly, rallying the gold bugs.
The first: the price of gold in India, by far the world's largest importer of the metal. India is a massive buyer of bullion for jewelry and cares little for the rest of the world's concerns. If the Indians want to buy, they will.
India has a fairly high import duty on gold. If you subtract the duty from the world price, you find whether the domestic price makes importing profitable. It has been moved decisively into profitable territory for legal imports this week. This has not been the case for some time.
For reasons that mystify me, the only regular source of this Indian data is Bill Murphy's Website Le Metropole Cafe. Yet this is the key calculation for verifying Indian demand. See Website
Over the weekend, Le Metropole posted this: "Indian ex-duty premiums: (Friday: a.m.$1.85, p.m. $2.55, with world gold at $943.75 and $944.55. Ample for legal imports."]
Anyone familiar with the physical trade must find it hard to envisage much further price decline.
The second encouraging gold bugs: The lease rate for gold. This is the cost of borrowing gold. Thirty years ago, this was a detail, but with the huge expansion of lending to gold mining companies in the 1980s it became a big deal. In particular it was an important part of the argument of outfits like Gold Anti-Trust Association GATA which argued that secretive activity in the gold market by central banks was crucial to understanding what was happening with gold.
In the past few days a strange thing has happened. Australia's Privateer says, "the shorter term (one and two-month) rates have actually gone into negative territory this week."
In other words, gold is being supplied to the market by the central banks. Privateer goes on: "We do not recall a previous instance of this, and there certainly has not been one since the cold bull market began in 2001-02 ...
"We have not -- until now -- seen a situation in which the central banks are actually paying the bullion banks, hedge funds, gold miners et al to borrow the stuff. And please don't forget that, in this context, leasing gold is actually "shorting" gold. Gold is not "leased" to be hoarded, it is "leased" to be sold for something that pays a far higher rate of interest ... the practice of 'leasing gold -- and silver' by the central banks has been one of their best means of suppressing the prices of these precious metals for a long time."
Interestingly The Privateer's wonderful $US 5x3 Point and figure chart withstood this week's slump. See chart
Goldbug conclusion: Central banks, led surreptitiously by the Fed, are supplying physical gold to the market. And wise heads like the Indians are buying it.
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NO Fooling By Jon Nadler apr 1 2008 2:28PM

Good Afternoon,

Proving once again that you cannot keep a market aloft with wishful thinking and/or cheap words, the commodity shorts enjoyed a day in the April sun today as everything tradable fell across the board, and the bulls ran for cover. At the end of the day, markets have always a function of the direct action of buyers and sellers, and the latter outnumbered the former in spades today.

Three buzzwords have driven the speculative action over the past thirteen months. The 'yen carry-trade' mantra was followed by the 'subprime debacle' explanation, and we know what all of that led to. Now, a new word has made the top ten list: "deleveraging." Salon.com cautions: "No one knows how long the present deleveraging process will take or what its precise dynamics will be. We do know, however, that it will have to run its course, and that it is accompanied by deflation in asset prices until a new equilibrium is found. As history has shown, this process can be painful." - those sobering words belong to the head of the Bank for International Settlement ( a source oft-touted by the tinfoil clubs as authoritative - when it suits their Quixotic quests).

The "unthinkable" happened today, when, on the heels of massive losses at UBS and Deutsche Bank, the markets went into the most counter-intuitive rally seen in a long time. Witness the greenback rising .74 to $7.60 on the index, see the Dow gaining 305 points, and behold a commodity complex fall that will have speculators licking their wounds for some time to come. The severity of the drop had even objective market observers a bit taken aback.

Better than expected ISM figures and new equity offerings on Wall Street contributed to the rout as money was being vacuumed out of "stuff" and into paper. All bullish hopes are now pinned on the jobs situation coming our way towards the end of the week. You can hear the rooting just as loudly as you can hear the calls for the continuation and aggravation of the credit problem. Investors appear to feel a bit differently however. More are of the opinion that the tide may have turned.

As observed in yesterday's closing commentary, gold prices looked poised for a sub-$900 dip amid an eroding commodity complex. Well, the metal followed through on that tilt and fell quite hard to a low of $871.90 before climbing back to $882.50 later in the day. Crude oil prices fell to under $100 intra-day, while the US dollar rose sharply on the index - a combination that proved highly adverse to bullion values.

New York gold was down $33 at $882.40 per ounce at last check as selling waves hit the pits and participants remained on dollar-watch. Silver took some incoming as well, losing 37 cents to $16.84 as concerns about waning industrial demand hit copper and other metals and the dollar's new-found vigor - even if temporary- put pressure on commodities as an asset class. Platinum lost 72 to $1934 and palladium fell $1 to $440.00 per ounce. Some stabilization came in as the falls were seen as somewhat overdone. However, with three hours left to trade, the jury remains out on how this day will come to be regarded when it is over. It a matter of shades of black, however.

Look for more of the same as the days wear on. Perceptions that the credit crisis is ebbing will remain pitted against fears that the worst banking crisis in 30 years will drag the global economy down. Safe-have gold buyers will be pitted against risk-averse speculators who see a slowing economy as a valid enough reason to park funds in others assets. The technical and psychological damage is done. None of this will stop misguided pharisees from issuing more calls to arms with "buy,buy,buy!" with the loudest bullhorn (bull + horn) they can get a hold of. Again.

Like they did at the recent highs. Happy Trading.

Jon Nadler

If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?

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US Government to secure mortgage market with gold reserves
Lee Jones | 19-Sep-2008

The U.S. Treasury Department has promised “hundreds of billions” to save the US markets using its own gold reserves.

President Bush approved the use of existing authorities by Treasury secretary Hank Paulson to make available as necessary the assets of the Exchange Stabilisation Fund for up to $50 billion to buy more illiquid mortgage assets.
When the Government bailed out the the Government Sponsored Enterprises it promised to buy illiquid mortgage backed securities, but this announcement extends that pledge.

The ESF was created after the Great Depression and uses the US gold reserve as collateral for financial stability.

The plan will involve Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac increasing their purchases of mortgage assets. The Government will also expand its own purchase programme for mortgage backed assets, which was announced recently, to help increase the availability of capital for more mortgages.

Paulson says he will also work with Congress to create new legislation that will allow all mortgage backed securities to be bought up by the GSEs and the Government, instead of just those that fit within existing legislation.

This move is exactly what mortgage industry professionals have been calling for the UK Government to make. Earlier today, the Intermediary Mortgage Lenders Association urged the UK Government to take similar action. The Council of Mortgage Lenders also reiterated the call for help with illiquid assets.

Paulson said a press conference in Washington: “We are talking hundreds of billions of dollars, This needs to be big enough to make a real difference and get to the heart of the problem.”

“This morning we've taken a number of powerful tactical steps to increase confidence in the system.

“The underlying weakness in our financial system today is the illiquid mortgage assets that have lost value as the housing correction has proceeded. These illiquid assets are choking off the flow of credit that is so vitally important to our economy.”

Paulson says the Government will buy the illiquid assets but he urged that “this troubled asset relief program must be properly designed and sufficiently large to have maximum impact, while including features that protect the taxpayer to the maximum extent possible.”
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PERFECT STORM FOR GOLD
Gold to record highs within six months – Barclays Capital
Reconsideration of gold's merits should push it to new highs as uncertainty and a weak dollar are likely to dominate markets.
Posted: Monday , 29 Sep 2008
KYOTO, JAPAN (REUTERS) -
A near "perfect storm" has reformed in the gold market that should drive bullion to new record highs within the next six months, fuelled by a mix of anxious uncertainty and a weaker dollar outlook, a Barclays Capital official said on Monday.
While gold prices may weaken briefly if other markets rally in relief once U.S. legislators gave the green light to a $700 billion bailout of the financial system, a reconsideration of gold's merits should propel it beyond the March record of $1,030.80 an ounce, says Jonathan Spall, a director in BarCap's commodities division.
"I think we should make new highs .. .within the next six months, I would've thought," he told journalists at the London Bullion Market Association's annual conference in Kyoto. "We should be in a perfect storm for gold."
The U.S. and European governments have stepped in this month to bail out major banks and financial institutions whose near collapse under the weight of toxic debt triggered the worst crisis in decades and threatened to wreck the world economy. "I was always very sceptical of the argument of gold as a safe haven, but that has changed dramatically for me and for others -- now it's financial institutions themselves that are under threat," he said.
Spall, who liaises with central banks and with hedge funds in both precious and base metals markets, also said he saw indications that hedge funds were increasingly interested in moving into the gold market.
Gold prices spiked earlier this month from an 11-month low of around $736 to a high just above $900 an ounce, but have stalled there amid a rush for pure cash among some financial players.
That could change as worried investors seek out hard assets fearing a falling dollar and inflationary pressures.
"Suddenly people who have worked for years in the gold market but never invested are asking how they get in, whether ETFs or something else," he said. (Reporting by Jonathan Leff; Editing by Ben Tan)______________
If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?
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Despite the ups and downs of the paper gold market, physical supply continues to deteriorate. Mark O’Byrne, of Gold and Silver Investments Ltd., provided an excellent summary:

“Some of the largest wholesalers in the world are out of all bullion product except for exchange bullion product - 100 ozt and 400 ozt gold bars and 1,000 ozt silver bars. They cannot supply South African Krugerrands, American Eagles and Buffaloes, Canadian Maples, Austrian Philharmonics, Chinese Pandas, Australian Nuggets (all 1 oz.). They cannot supply 1 oz. or 10 oz. gold bars or 1, 10 and 100 oz. silver bars. And I have confirmed they cannot sell any European or world gold coins such as British sovereigns, francs, marcs, Mexican pesos etc. etc.

“They have confirmed that there is no physical supply at all from the primary marketplace - large refiners and government mints. Worryingly they are being informed that this is not a temporary problem and there are no supply side commitments and there is little in the pipeline for the foreseeable future due to excessive and unprecedented demand. Secondary supply from the public and retailers is nearly non existent as there are nearly no sellers and nearly all buyers.

“Bullion shortages and the confluence of unprecedented demand and limited supply in conjunction with macroeconomic, inflation and systemic factors is leading to extremely bullish conditions for the gold market - probably even more bullish than in the 1970s when gold rose some 3,000% from $35 to over $850 in just 9 years.”

We’re looking forward to it.

We zullen zien

Succes

GH
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Howdy,

Shortage in gold is exaggerated:

1. Als dat zo was, dan was goudprijs al lang op nieuwe hoogtepunten

2. Waarom zijn er commercials (op USA t.v.) elke dag die je aansporen goudbars en goudmunten te kopen ?

Logisch is als plotseling iedereen goud wil kopen, dat er tijdelijk 'n tekort is in de retailhandel.

Goud zat on the way

>--:-)-->

p.s. Zilver doet ook maar erg weinig: zowat op helft van recente hoogtepunt

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Code Red Emergency: Survival Measures Required

RHINEBECK, NY 29 September 2008 -- The Greatest Depression has begun. Conditions will drastically deteriorate. We urge you to consider taking proactive and protective measures to secure your future before it's too late.

The "Panic of '08" that has gripped the financial markets is but one symptom of a much greater crisis. Empire America is collapsing. The crash is under way. Those in denial refuse to see it. Others pin their hopes on politicians, bankers and brokers to miraculously repair the irreparable.

There is no denying the economic facts and figures. While there is no turning back, there will be short-term respites. Use them wisely.

Every day the news is more dire than the day before. And it's not only America that's crashing. As the giant falls, the earth trembles. Economic chaos, social upheaval, political strife ... global markets are melting down. There are runs on banks. Wars - hot and cold - rage and simmer. The proof is everywhere.
Too Big to Drown

In America, political insiders and the economic high and mighty know the ship is sinking. As they ready the lifeboats to save themselves, they keep assuring the worried masses they know what to do to keep the ship of state afloat.

Do you believe the captain? Do you believe the crew? These are the people that ignored the warning signals and willfully charted the course toward destruction. Are they going to save you? Us?

Will Washington put your interests above their special interests? Who do you look up to with a greater mind than yours? Bush, Paulson, Bernanke, McCain, Obama, Dodd, Reid, Pelosi, Frank, Laurel, Hardy?

By their deeds you shall know them. They are committed to saving the "too-big-to-fails" while leaving the "too-small-to-save" to save themselves.

Know where the exits are. Make sure you can find your way to the lifeboats. Understand that at a certain point, the hatches will be closed, and under the "rules" of government, only first class passengers will have guaranteed seats.

Psychotic September

The pillars of America's financial system were destroyed when the Twin Towers were toppled on 9/11.

The foundation of America's free market capitalism were destroyed when an Economic 9/11 took out Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers and A.I.G. ... the world's largest investment banks, brokerages and insurance companies. Yet, despite the deafening sound, when the biggest bank failure in US history happened several days later, it barely made the headlines that Washington Mutual, with 2,300 branches and $310 billion of assets, had gone under.

As we write this, Wachovia, the sixth largest bank in the US, is being gobbled up by the imperiled Citigroup.

Do you need more proof?

Today the Dow plunged 778 points.

We are facing a crisis of unparalleled proportions. You must also rely on your own wits and good judgment. No one will save you but yourself.

Trendpost: We do not provide financial advice. We are trend forecasters. We forecast many more bank failures occurring across the United States and around the world. We forecast a high probability for the government to call a bank "holiday," at which time withdrawals will be drastically limited. Thus, while deposits will be FDIC insured, restrictions will be imposed on withdrawals.

We forecast gold will hit our predicted $2000 mark. Absent draconian government measures, similar to the 1933 Emergency Banking Relief Act which gave the Secretary of the Treasury the authority to "relieve" (confiscate) the gold of private citizens, prices will surpass $2000.

Gerald Celente
Founder/Director, The Trends Research Institute
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Why then, is gold the unmentionable, four letter word of economics?
Why, even today, does serious mention of gold brand the advocate in many circles as an ignoramus, a crank?
The answer is threefold:
A misunderstanding of the role of money;
a misreading of history;
and finally, visceral revulsion to the notion that a metal can do a better job of guiding monetary policy than a gaggle of finance ministers, central bankers and well-degreed economists."

- Malcolm Forbes

We zullen zien

Succes

GH

If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?
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King Midas Sam Mathid

Of all the stories woven around the subject of gold, possibly the story of King Midas is the best known, whilst also being the least understood. Circa 700 BC, Midas was the King of Pessinus, the capital of Phrygia. Phrygia was a small but wealthy country within the eastern part of what is now known as Turkey.

The mythology starts with Silenus, the drunken satyr, falling asleep in the prized rose garden of King Midas. He was hauled before the court of Midas who, instead of punishing him, listened enthralled as Silenus regaled the court with amazing stories. As a half man/half goat drunkard, intent upon a life of pleasure seeking, he probably had some rather interesting tales to tell.

Silenus was the surrogate Father of Dionysus, god of the life force. When Dionysus found out what had transpired he was well pleased and offered to grant Midas one wish in return for his kindness. Midas asked that whatever he might touch would be turned to gold. Dionysus warned him of the dangers of such a wish, but Midas was blinded by his enthusiasm. Dionysus granted the wish.

From then on everything that Midas touched turned to gold including his beloved roses, and even the food and drink that he wished to consume. It was only when he inadvertently touched his daughter and killed her by turning her into gold that he finally repented his foolishness.

Full of remorse Midas approached Dionysus and asked that the wish be cancelled. Dionysus told him to bath in the water of the Pactolus River. This Midas did and the 'gift' was washed away. Incidental to this story is that the gold 'from Midas' was washed down-river to Lydia (in western Turkey), which around 660 BC was the site of the earliest gold coinage.

Modern renditions of the story of King Midas erroneously place all the story's emphasis on the folly of man's obsession with gold. That was most certainly not the intent of the fable. That sensible people valued gold highly was taken for granted. The intent of the fable was a theme common to Greek mythology... the inability of many people to think beyond the immediate and obvious.

The wonderful writer and economist Henry Hazlitt* follows the same theme when he points out that the problem with Keynesian economics is that it consistently fails to successfully predict, or even foresee, secondary consequences. Much like the child who insists upon eating large amounts of sugar lollies because they taste nice, and who fails to appreciate, until too late, that they have the secondary consequence of causing a very upset tummy.

Which point brings us up to the current economic situation. Our governing elites have utterly failed to manage the economy in a wise manner. The not only predictable, but blindingly obvious consequences of their own actions have left them open-mouthed and bewildered. It goes without saying that the moment that the economy is 'managed' then distortions and mal-investments will occur. But it is possible to manage an economy with a competence borne of an understanding of economics that at least minimises that damage. This has not been the case.

The economic mistakes that have destroyed America were borne of a pig-headed, Congressional arrogance that they, the wise and wonderful politicians, were right and that the classical economists and Founding Fathers were wrong. Gold and silver, the only real money, were replaced by pieces of printed paper backed by nothing other than the full faith and credit of politicians. How much more worthless can something get?

Once these pieces of paper were forced to be accepted in lieu of real money, then the process of inflating away the value of the new 'money' began. Three generations of Americans have had their wealth confiscated and reallocated to a governing elite via this process. These people worked their whole lives for a modern mythology known as the American Dream. What little they still have to show for a lifetime of toil is about to be lost. The ideas of Keynes are the anti-Midas in that whatever they touch turn to shit.

Differences of opinion are not unusual in this world, nor is that necessarily bad... sane people let results be the judge. For over 70 years the results of going off the gold standard, coupled with the fallacious doctrine of Keynesian economics, have caused massive destruction of capital and great hardships to the non-elites... not to mention the innumerable wars with hundreds of millions of deaths that blighted the 20th Century. Read Ferdinand Lips if that strains your credulity. Read. [pdf]

Keynesian economics was an unsophisticated dogma that failed to pay heed to the real world. Its adherents were not interested in whether or not it worked over the long term, they were only interested in whether it suited their own perceived short term interests. Its only virtue was in the immediate, and that was always enough for Congress. As long as the immediate would take them through to the next election, then all was fine. As long as it felt good and sounded good then the flimflam of Keynesian populism would suffice; never mind that nonsense about responsible economic management and heeding a dusty old document called the Constitution.

Our modern satyrs, Bernanke and Paulson have defended their actions by regaling Americans with wild stories about how it was all the fault of the free market. Under the auspices of a compliant Congress they have rammed through the sort of giddy 'solutions' that one would expect from those whose genes are half goat. Alan Greenspan, whatever his motives, succeeded in destroying the Federal Reserve in its current form. As there could be no more destructive form the man deserves credit for that.

I came across a quote by Benjamin Franklin recently:

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."

I would strongly suggest that, to the contrary, people are generally virtuous until governed by ignorant 'masters.' Bad government will firstly degrade the currency and the laws and then (secondary consequences!), moral standards. It is not that people lack virtue and thus need masters, though it is convenient for the elite that people believe this to be so. It is masters who destroy virtue by idiotic edict that encourages and rewards criminal behaviour at all points of the legislative process. The morals of society succumb to rule by the idiocracy.

As our half men/half goat drunken elite perform their media rituals, the question needs to be asked whether "we the people" deserve any better. An observable rule is that in all aspects of their lives people do not get what they 'deserve', they get precisely what it is that they are prepared to put up with. That is a truth that applies down at the level of personal relationships right the way up to the type of government that we allow. Government is the problem, not the solution. Until we can see and understand that one simple truth, and make the decision that we will no longer put up with that situation, then humanity will continue to suffer the cyclical existence that ranges from impoverished serfdom to intermittent prosperity and back to poverty again.

The real theme of the old Greek fable about King Midas from 2,700 years ago is still most applicable to not only our governing elite, but to the American people. Yes, the immediate bailout legislation, forced down the throat of Americans, will hopefully
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Yes, the immediate bailout legislation, forced down the throat of Americans, will hopefully lead to a continuation of the current comfortable lives that we have become accustomed to for a few months longer, but what are the secondary effects? The answer to that is as obvious and as unattractive as a drunken half man/half goat sleeping in a crushed rose garden. Will anyone haul these modern satyrs before a court?

Are modern Americans so complacent, or so intimidated that, unlike their forebears, they are prepared to put up with this? If the anger reaches the level of the street, will the military and police choose to support a Congress and presidency corrupted beyond anything that Jefferson could have imagined in his worst nightmare, or will they choose to support the Constitution? Will Americans believe the desperate, verging on pathetic excuse that it was somehow the non-existent free market itself that was to blame... that the crime was committed by laissez-faire capitalism? How gullible are Americans?

The answer to those questions will determine whether America goes the way of Phrygia and Lydia, where writers of the future will have to explain where it used to be on the map.

"Serf City, here we come... " (apologies to Brian Wilson and Jan Berry)

I look forward to seeing some of you in Canberra, Australia next week at Professor Antal Fekete's fifth and last session of Gold Standard University Live:

Expressions of interest in the event should be sent to: feketeaustralia@yahoo.com

Henry Hazlitt's 'Economics in One Lesson' is a wonderful and easy to read primer for anyone wishing to understand why it is that government attempts to help the economy inevitably have such disastrous consequences.

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Nov 6, 2008
Sam Mathid
email: sammathid@yahoo.com
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We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth... For my part, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst; and to provide for it. --Patrick Henry

Dear Comrades In Golden Arms,

The Federal Reserve cannot be the lender of last resort to all nations near and dear and to all major US and international employers. President Obama's 20 economic advisors will not accomplish anything real. The Federal Reserve under Bernanke has entered dangerous territory that up to now has been the bastion of academics.

As the world turns to the Fed to be bailed out, the question will soon be who will bail out the Fed. The answer is clear - no one. The US dollar is in grave danger due to this shift to so far failed (Japan) academic solutions. In truth, all other solution are failing as well.

This situation is bigger than the US Federal Reserve. The US Federal Reserve cannot accomplish what they have undertaken. If you don't know that you simply lack a calculator with enough zeros.

The US dollar as the common share of the USA cannot enjoy a bull market while their balance sheet is being torn to shreds.
Gold is a currency, not a commodity. It has always been a currency. Industrial demand is a trivial constituent to the price of gold. There is no question about that. Gold as a currency moves inverse to the US dollar. It has always been so. It will always be so.

Do not fail to protect yourself. You will need every avenue of protection that I have suggested to you.

The US dollar is headed to .72, .62 and .52 on the USDX as a product of the move of the Fed into the "strategy of quantitative easing."

There is no doubt in the mind of those blessed by understanding that gold is headed to at least $1650.

Order your shares as paper certificates while you still can.

Potential confiscation of retirement plans now being discussed in legislative testimony is the most disturbing scenario I have ever heard.

Consider gold confiscation now a potential whereas it was simply a bad dream before.

Consider that Gold ETFs fit into the confiscation scenario assuming such a draconian act could actually be taken.
Look for juniors that have strong characteristics of selection. These include juniors with strong management with proven track records that are willing to fight for their shareholders, ones with proven resources in the ground, ones that operate in politically sound countries, ones with no derivatives exposure and ones that have internal financing already in place. No we cannot provide you with a list - this is up to you to research on your own.

If I were to construct such a vehicle it would be incorporated outside the USA, do business in a third country and trade outside the USA. Most importantly, the shares should be paper certificated with those certificates in my hands, not the hands of a US brokerage firm.

Fed capitulates: the central bank is broken

Or perhaps better, the entire banking system is broken.
For it appears that the US Federal Reserve has given up on the idea of easing stress on interbank and wholesale lending and is resigned to being the central bank-come-market-maker of last, first and every resort.

For some time now there's been a debate about the direction of the Fed's policy. Would we see target rates come down further? Quantitative easing? Massive T-Bill issuance in the open market?
From the Fed yesterday:

The Federal Reserve Board on Wednesday announced that it will alter the formulas used to determine the interest rates paid to depository institutions on required reserve balances and excess reserve balances.

Previously, the rate on required reserve balances had been set at the average target federal funds rate established by the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) over a reserves maintenance period minus 10 basis points. The rate on excess balances had been set as the lowest federal funds rate target in effect during a reserve maintenance period minus 35 basis points. Under the new formulas, the rate on required reserve balances will be set equal to the average target federal funds rate over the reserve maintenance period. The rate on excess balances will be set equal to the lowest FOMC target rate in effect during the reserve maintenance period. These changes will become effective for the maintenance periods beginning Thursday, November 6.

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