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[verwijderd] 10 januari 2020 11:59

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NewKidInTown schreef op 10 januari 2020 11:36:
Alles aangestuurd door Hollywood:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mTxpFIw-3g

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Wadloper 10 januari 2020 12:37

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NewKidInTown schreef op 10 januari 2020 11:24:
[...]

NEE !

"Ohio was won by Donald Trump by a margin of 8.13 points. Prior to the election, most news organizations considered the Buckeye State as leaning Republican, due to Trump's appeal to blue collar voters in the Rust Belt. Ohio kept its streak of voting for the winner (a bellwether state) since 1964, as it voted for Trump, who won nationally. Having previously voted Democratic in 2012 and 2008, the win margin was the second largest of the states Trump flipped red (after Iowa). It is also the largest victory margin since George H.W. Bush defeated Michael Dukakis in 1988. Trump also became the first Republican to win Ohio without carrying Hamilton County since Rutherford B. Hayes in 1876.

Ohio was an unprecedented 10.2% more Republican than the national average in 2016, the farthest it had voted from the rest of the nation since 1932. The state had also been one of eleven to vote for Bill Clinton twice in 1992 and 1996 which Hillary Clinton lost in 2016."

Sorry helemaal gelijk, ik had de verkeerde van het echtpaar.

NewKidInTown 10 januari 2020 14:18

Ze zijn allebei "verkeerd" :-)

Wadloper 10 januari 2020 14:21

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NewKidInTown schreef op 10 januari 2020 14:18:
Ze zijn allebei "verkeerd" :-)

Ja behoorlijk.

NewKidInTown 10 januari 2020 15:05

Gelukkig alles direct uit eerste hand en niet via de fake-media:

Trump geeft Clinton, Bernie, "nervous" Nancy, "leaker" Peter Schiff ook nog even een veeg (uit de pan):

"Trump Says "Pathetic" Democrats Would've Leaked Soleimani Strike Plans To "Fake" Media

During a rally in Ohio Thursday, President Trump slammed Democrats for criticizing his decision to take out Iranian terrorist General Qassem Soleimani, saying that if he’d informed Congress ahead of the surgical strike, ‘pathetic’ House leaders would have called the ‘corrupt media’.

The President also claimed that the ‘sadistic mass murderer’ “Soleimani was actively planning new attacks and he was looking very seriously at our embassies, and not just the embassy in Baghdad.”

“But we stopped him, and we stopped him quickly and we stopped him cold,” Trump told the crowd in Toledo, adding that the actions saved American lives and delivered ‘American justice.’

“Now I see, the radical left Democrats have expressed outrage over the termination of this horrible terrorist.” The President continued adding, “you know what, instead they should be outraged by Soleimani’s savage crimes, and that fact that his countless victims were denied justice for so long.”

“We have Bernie and Nancy Pelosi, we have them all – they’re trying to say, ‘How dare you take them out that way. You should get permission from Congress. You should come in and tell us what you want to do. You should come in and tell us so that we can call up the fake news that’s back there and we can leak it,” Trump said, slamming the Democrats.

“We had to make a decision.” Trump roared, adding that he didn’t have time to call “nervous Nancy,” who is “not operating with a full deck.”

“They’re so pathetic. So they want us to call them,” the President continued, adding “Now, Schiff is a big leaker, you know. He leaks to crazy CNN, Not too many people are watching CNN. But he leaks!”

“So he’ll say: ‘You know, uh, off the record – I got to hurry up because everyone’s watching me in the hallway on my cell phone – off the record, they’ve got the No. 1 terrorist in the world – Soleimani. And they’re going to get him, they’re going to take him out in the next 10 minutes. Please, don’t tell anyone I told you,” Trump said, imagining Schiff taking pleasure in leaking the story to CNN.

Trump touted the strike as ‘the anti-Benghazi,’ saying “We got there very quickly. We got there very quickly. This is the exact opposite. We did it exactly the opposite of Benghazi where they got there so late.”"

www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-say...

lees ook de reacties.

Al Kipone 10 januari 2020 15:11

Als je hier geen nachtmerries van krijgt, dan weet ik het ook niet meer.
Naast de toon en de beledigignne, is de laatst zin angstaanjagend:
een generaal van een souverein land wordt vermoord omdat hij iets nog niet gedaan heeft, en naderhand wordt geen enkel bewijs geleverd dat hij bezig was iets te doen.

(Zie bv commentaar van Mike Lee)

Ofwel: we don't like him, and therefore we killed him.

Stunning.

Al Kipone 10 januari 2020 15:14

en dan spreekt pompeo op Fox:

On the “imminent threat” intel, Pompeo tells Fox News: “There is no doubt that there were a series of imminent attacks being plotted by Qasem Soleimani. We don’t know precisely when and we don’t know precisely where, but it was real.”

Met een uitgestreken gezicht....

Al Kipone 10 januari 2020 15:20

Meanwhile, in de vervolging van politieke rivalen door trump:

Justice Dept. winds down Clinton-related inquiry once championed by Trump. It found nothing of consequence.

A Justice Department inquiry launched more than two years ago to mollify conservatives clamoring for more investigations of Hillary Clinton has effectively ended with no tangible results, and current and former law enforcement officials said they never expected the effort to produce much of anything.

John Huber, the U.S. attorney in Utah, was tapped in November 2017 by then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to look into concerns raised by President Trump and his allies in Congress that the FBI had not fully pursued cases of possible corruption at the Clinton Foundation and during Clinton’s time as secretary of state, when the U.S. government decided not to block the sale of a company called Uranium One.

As a part of his review, Huber examined documents and conferred with federal law enforcement officials in Little Rock who were handling a meandering probe into the Clinton Foundation, people familiar with the matter said. Current and former officials said that Huber has largely finished and found nothing worth pursuing — though the assignment has not formally ended and no official notice has been sent to the Justice Department or to lawmakers, these people said.

The effective conclusion of his investigation, with no criminal charges or other known impacts, is likely to roil some in the GOP who had hoped the prosecutor would vindicate their long-held suspicions about a political rival. Trump, though, has largely shifted his focus to a different federal prosecutor tapped to do a separate, special investigation: U.S. attorney in Connecticut John Durham, who Attorney General William P. Barr assigned last year to explore the origins of the FBI’s 2016 probe into possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia.

www.washingtonpost.com/national-secur...

[verwijderd] 10 januari 2020 15:29

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Al Kipone schreef op 10 januari 2020 15:14:
Pompeo tells Fox News: “There is no doubt that there were a series of imminent attacks being plotted by Qasem Soleimani. We don’t know precisely when and we don’t know precisely where, but it was real.”

Lekenvraag: in hoeverre weet "men" dat het elimineren van Soleimani een matigende invloed heeft op toekomstige acties van de "Revolutionaire Garde" (buiten wraak om)? Zou deze groep postuum niet met nog meer motivatie bestaande plannen willen realiseren? Dan zouden we toch eerder met de uitvoering van een doodvonnis dan met het verijdelen van nog meer geweld te maken hebben?

seance 10 januari 2020 15:42

hij werd te populair en was een havik. ze wilden ook wel van m af. is n theorie.

leek2018 10 januari 2020 15:46

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gokker schreef op 10 januari 2020 15:29:
[...]
Lekenvraag: in hoeverre weet "men" dat het elimineren van Soleimani een matigende invloed heeft op toekomstige acties van de "Revolutionaire Garde" (buiten wraak om)? Zou deze groep postuum niet met nog meer motivatie bestaande plannen willen realiseren? Dan zouden we toch eerder met de uitvoering van een doodvonnis dan met het verijdelen van nog meer geweld te maken hebben?

Dat weet "men" nooit, maar het is wel een algemeen geaccepteerde factor. Maar ja, dit is wel een antwoord van een leek.

[verwijderd] 10 januari 2020 15:50

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keljans 123 schreef op 10 januari 2020 15:42:
hij werd te populair en was een havik. ze wilden ook wel van m af. is n theorie.

Het is voor mij slecht voorstelbaar dat een enkele persoon bepalend is voor het doen en laten van Iran in het buitenland. Ik ga er van uit dat daar niets zal veranderen.

Al Kipone 10 januari 2020 15:55

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leek2018 schreef op 10 januari 2020 15:46:
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Dat weet "men" nooit, maar het is wel een algemeen geaccepteerde factor. Maar ja, dit is wel een antwoord van een leek.

een algemeen geaccepteerde factor?

'Many People say'?

By the way, 66% van de VS bevolking denk dat ze nu minder veilig zijn dan voor de dood van de bloeddorstige generaal, 70% denk dat er aanslagen volgen, en 60% denkt aan oorlog.

(en 52% vind trump's aktie roekeloos)

(Exclusive: Americans say Soleimani's killing made US less safe, Trump 'reckless' on Iran

www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/... )

luchtschip 10 januari 2020 16:01

quote:
gokker schreef op 10 januari 2020 15:29:
[...]
Lekenvraag: in hoeverre weet "men" dat het elimineren van Soleimani een matigende invloed heeft op toekomstige acties van de "Revolutionaire Garde" (buiten wraak om)? Zou deze groep postuum niet met nog meer motivatie bestaande plannen willen realiseren? Dan zouden we toch eerder met de uitvoering van een doodvonnis dan met het verijdelen van nog meer geweld te maken hebben?

Pentagon Officials Reportedly “Stunned” by Trump’s Decision to Kill Soleimani
By DANIEL POLITI
JAN 05, 20209:29 AM

When top American military officials presented President Donald Trump with the option to kill Gen. Qassem Soleimani, Iran’s most powerful commander, they didn’t actually think he would take it, reports the New York Times.

Pentagon officials usually include a far-out option when they present possibilities to the president in order to make the others seem less extreme.

The other options presented to Trump in Mar-a-Lago, his Palm Beach resort, included strikes against Iranian ships or missile facilities or militias backed by Iran that are operating in Iraq.

“The Pentagon also tacked on the choice of targeting General Suleimani, mainly to make other options seem reasonable,” reports the Times.

At first, it seemed everything was going according to plan. Trump rejected the option to kill Soleimani to respond to a wave of recent Iranian-sponsored violence in Iraq. Instead, he authorized airstrikes against an Iranian-supported militia group, Kataib Hezbollah. The strikes ended up hitting three locations in Iraq and two in Syria.

Then things changed when protesters gathered outside the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad on Tuesday.

Iranians saw the U.S. response as disproportionate, but Trump became increasingly angry at the images he saw on television as protesters stormed the embassy. Suddenly, Trump was worried that failing to respond to the protests would look weak.

By Thursday, Trump had decided to go forward with the killing of Soleimani, and “top Pentagon officials were stunned,” reports the Times.

CNN also reports that “some officials emerged surprised” when the president decided to target Soleimani, as many expected he would go for a less risky option. There was immediate concern about what kind of retaliation that could spark from Iran, but it is unclear whether top military officials pushed back against Trump’s decision.

Although top U.S. national security officials continue to insist that the killing of Soleimani was in response to an imminent threat against Americans, there continues to be skepticism about that claim as the administration has failed to provide convincing evidence to make its case.

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mark Milley also made clear that the attacks could still happen, meaning that killing Soleimani did not get rid of the supposed imminent threat. Several Democratic lawmakers have expressed skepticism at the president’s claims.

“My staff was briefed by a number of people representing a variety of agencies in the United States government and they came away with no feeling that there was evidence of an imminent attack,” Sen. Tom Udall of New Mexico said.
slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/p...

asti 10 januari 2020 16:20

quote:
gokker schreef op 10 januari 2020 15:29:
[...]
Lekenvraag: in hoeverre weet "men" dat het elimineren van Soleimani een matigende invloed heeft op toekomstige acties van de "Revolutionaire Garde" (buiten wraak om)? Zou deze groep postuum niet met nog meer motivatie bestaande plannen willen realiseren? Dan zouden we toch eerder met de uitvoering van een doodvonnis dan met het verijdelen van nog meer geweld te maken hebben?

Het is net als met beleggen. Je denkt verschillende scenario's uit, maar je weet niet van te voren wat er gaat gebeuren.

Het zou kunnen dat de dreiging van liquidaties van overheidsfunctionarissen een remmend effect heeft op plannen die ze al dan niet zouden hebben. En/of ze tot onderhandelen(/overgave) dwingt.

Al Kipone 10 januari 2020 16:20

“top Pentagon officials were stunned,” reports the Times.

toen trump aan zijn 4 jaar begon werd gezegd dat 'the adutls in the room' alles wel in goede banen zouden leiden.

Nadat de adults al snel weg liepen (Mattis, Cohn, Tillerosn, McMaster bv) of net zo erg bleken (Kelly) was het houvast dat de Generaals wel zouden zorgen voor een stabiele koers in geval van calamiteiten.

Na deze week is dat gevoel toch een beetje weg.....

luchtschip 10 januari 2020 18:01

NEW: U.S. Navy releases dramatic video of a Russian warship aggressively encountering an American destroyer in the Middle East
video:
twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1215...

Farragut(US Destroyer) sounded five short blasts, the international maritime signal for danger of a collision, and requested the Russian ship alter course in accordance with international rules of the road.
video bijna aanvaring
twitter.com/US5thFleet/status/1215658...
en
twitter.com/US5thFleet/status/1215658...

A Russian navy ship “aggressively approached” the US Navy's USS Farragut while it was operating in the North Arabian Sea Thursday ignoring initial warnings from the US vessel and increasing the risk of collision before altering its course, the US Navy tells CNN

twitter.com/rabrowne75/status/1215657...

Two defense officials tell CNN the Russian vessel got as close as 180 feet from the US destroyer before altering course. The Russian vessel was a surveillance and intelligence collection ship according to one official
twitter.com/rabrowne75/status/1215658...

luchtschip 10 januari 2020 18:40

Putin aanwezig bij marine oefeningen van Rusland in de Zwarte Zee, bij de Krim.

#Russian #Navy January 9. /TASS/. Russian President and Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Armed Forces Vladimir Putin has overseen the joint drills of Russia’s Black Sea and Northern Fleets from the Russian cruiser Marshal Ustinov belonging to the Northern Fleet.
twitter.com/Capt_Navy/status/12153263...

Al Kipone 10 januari 2020 18:42

On the day the U.S. military killed a top Iranian commander in Baghdad, U.S. forces carried out another top secret mission against a senior Iranian military official in Yemen, according to U.S. officials.

The strike targeting Abdul Reza Shahlai, a financier and key commander of Iran’s elite Quds Force who has been active in Yemen, did not result in his death, according to four U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

The unsuccessful operation may indicate that the Trump administration’s killing of Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani last week was part of a broader operation than previously explained, raising questions about whether the mission was designed to cripple the leadership of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps or solely to prevent an imminent attack on Americans as originally stated.

www.washingtonpost.com/world/national...

luchtschip 10 januari 2020 18:44

Iraq asks the US for a delegation to discuss the withdrawal of its troops. The US response: we need to talk.

Hier het antwoord van de US middels een statement :
pbs.twimg.com/media/EN7nfqFXkAErEd7?f...

twitter.com/RanjAlaaldin/status/12156...

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